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Fridman introduces Durov and their friendship; Durov recalls moving from the Soviet Union to Italy and developing his attachment to freedom.

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Durov connects freedom with confronting fear and mortality, then explains his decision to avoid alcohol.

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Durov discusses resisting social pressure and pursuing a distinctive skill through deliberate study.

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Durov describes limiting phone use and protecting quiet time for thought, sleep and ideas.

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Durov argues that constant connection distracts from valuable work and describes his personal approach to difficult emotions.

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Durov describes his exercise routine and use of intense heat and cold as practices of self-discipline.

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Durov recalls long swims and explains how he believes physical activity helps him manage stress at work.

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Durov describes his dietary choices and argues for investigating symptoms rather than simply suppressing them.

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Durov explains his avoidance of medication while acknowledging exceptions, then discusses media incentives, independent thought and sexual restraint.

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Durov describes Telegram’s small core team and argues that automation can reduce coordination costs and dependence on manual operations.

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Durov describes Telegram’s privacy architecture, asserts that private messages have never been shared, and explains his resistance to pressure.

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Research note: Identify which encryption boundary protects a conversation →

Durov links ownership control to maintaining Telegram’s principles and argues that states can gradually undermine privacy and freedom.

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The speakers criticise expanding state power; Durov begins his account of being arrested in France in August 2024.

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Durov describes his detention and criticises the investigation; Fridman compares it with Kafka and praises Telegram’s moderation efforts.

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Durov discusses content removal and explains his experience of the French investigating judge, appeal process and delays.

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Research note: An investigation is a procedural status, not a verdict →

Durov discusses travel restrictions, rejects hypothetical demands for message access and alleges pressure to change Telegram’s operation.

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Durov describes his refusal to compromise his principles and alleges a French intelligence request to restrict political channels in Romania.

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Durov alleges requests involving Moldovan channels and describes distinguishing rule violations from political speech.

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Durov explains his suspicions about political pressure and says Telegram protects peaceful expression across opposing political groups.

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The speakers criticise France’s business environment; Durov recounts a founder’s experience that he believes illustrates the costs of investigation.

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Durov recounts another entrepreneur’s experience and argues that prolonged investigations and hostility toward founders can drive businesses abroad.

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Durov describes his demanding school curriculum, conflicts with earlier teachers and opportunities to challenge ideas in class.

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Durov recalls striving for excellent grades and argues for mathematics and competition as foundations of education.

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Durov extends his argument for competition, then recalls learning from his brother Nikolai during childhood.

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Durov discusses his brother’s modesty, his own public visibility and learning to program through making games.

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Durov recalls programming a competitive game and a university website, then explains why simplifying features can help new users.

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Durov describes creating VK, learning through implementation and taking responsibility for many roles in the young company.

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Durov recalls VK’s early software stack, rising infrastructure demands and his brother’s help with scaling and attacks.

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Durov describes custom data engines and argues that efficient software and selective hiring reinforce each other.

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The speakers discuss engineering craft; Durov recalls cases where reducing a team improved productivity and explains his emphasis on individual ability.

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