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Getting Real

Hansson invokes the book’s argument for smaller software and small teams. The official online edition credits Basecamp collectively.

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1:57 · YouTube
DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting
Fridman names Getting Real among Hansson’s books in the episode introduction. Timing marks the publisher paragraph start; the speech end is unknown.
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After opening excerpts and the introduction, Hansson recalls his first computer and wanting to create games. →
2:32:51 · YouTube
DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting
Hansson identifies Getting Real while arguing that building less software can give a small team an advantage. Timing marks the publisher paragraph start; the speech end is unknown.
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Hansson discusses adding a finance role and argues that smaller teams reduce coordination and planning overhead. →

Bibliographic sources

Getting Real — bibliographic reference (external site) — Basecamp. Checked 2026-10-23.

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